new sibe

[michael mcnally]

hello everyone
I have had a visitor today a beautiful sibe called miki. he is a fourteen month old black and white large sibe with ice blue eyes. he is kc reg and has four gen worth of history. the couple who own him are looking to remome him and the visit went well.(apart from him dragging me round the garden) I am taking him out next weekend too see how we get on he has selective hearing. any tips for getting started rite?
thanks mike

[Chris Spence]

Very jealous we lost our boy to cancer and my wife won't allow another. For thousands of years the sibe has been used to pulling when with humans and hunting when not,,,, so they will pull when attached to a human and run and hunt when not so it ain't easy. If you are to let him off make sure you are in a secure area we had acres of farm land and took along the farmer and his sheep dog, we inspected the boundaries regular and new all the bad spots. First we walked him with a large log attached to his harness on a long rope so if he failed to come back we could catch him (in a fashion) then we got him used to walking with sam the sheep dog and eventually let them of together if he ran sam would give chase and assist bringing him back and for the last 5 years of his 13 he was loose when in the fields and 99.9% would return on command or at least stay still and wait for us to catch up but you could see in his eyes he new he could out run us and often ran out in the fields and headed for open gates but would wait till we got close to see if he could go through, he was very good really. So unless you have a large secure area away from traffic and farmers guns I would suggest a normal dog or a good harness that is sibe proof one that cant be reversed out of and a good long lead ( a pony training rope ). Sibes will go to just about anyone if it gets off and will get into any vehicle so they are easy lost and can cause damage ours dug a hole in our bed, ate remotes and when he first came to us distributed his cent around the house. They need lots of exercise in-fact I have put on nearly 3 stone since ours went and remember I was fortunate he was off the lead so be sure you know what you are doing
hope everything goes well
regards Chris

[michael mcnally]

I am sorry to hear about your boy it must have been heart breaking. thanks for the words of encouragment. miki will be on a halti and lead I want a belt aswell. he looks a bit like the sibe in your avitar. he's  a monster tho he is the biggest sibe I have ever seen he is seventy pounds, his paws are like a lions lol. I am really excited to take him out sat so I hape it goes well  so if anyone has any dog handling advise that would be really helpful.
thanks mike

[barbara terry]

get a look at some sibes before you jump in, he doesent sound typical!  he might be what you like though.

[michael mcnally]

get a look at some sibes before you jump in, he doesent sound typical!  he might be what you like though.

hi barb what do you mean by not typical! is that a bad thing ?

[Tracey Matherick]

Hi Micheal
                    sounds like a big boy Our largest boy who is right at the top of breed standard, has weighed in at about 28 kg on occasion . He has never been fat as he is a keen worker , but he is considered large compaired to most sibes.

    I would say make sure you check the KC papers and his pedigree, computers are wonderful pieces of equipment and are rugularly used to print out false documents. His present owners may have also been misled . so just do a bit of research.

   A 14month old sibe is a whole lot of work , a real handful, so you would be jumping in at the deep end will take alot of your time and energy, and dedication. Chris put it well, my last two chewed through my skirting boards , corners of walls, rubber draught excluder around the back door was nibbled off, plastic dog bowls lasted a day, vet bedding was torn up the day i put it down,  i could go on   
    They were and still are horrendous to walk, they are so exciteable they scream for the first 5 mins and then they jump up in the air like the floor is electrified and they can't touch it Bonkers. If we survive the initial excitement thay will walk / pull us around the fields on their leads, but i wouldn't ever let them off
 
        Good Luck in whatever you decide to do, but be carefull and use your head aswell as your heart 
                    Best Wishes Tracey
   

[michael mcnally]

hi tracey
i have taken him out today i went to his current home and he was verry more relaxed. he was on a leader and tried to pull. but not that much. i seen his papers today its a pedigree certificate and dose say he is a sibe. and has some history. it looks ligit. he is big and may be to big to be a good stud, but failing that i can get him newtered.  .
as for the eating he has eaten underwear, part of a tubledryer,leads, ect. is it possible that its the lines he come from that makes him big. his brother is no wear near as big. ang miki was biggest and fattest pup.

[Sue Jones]

sounds Sibe, If you take him on ensure all his paperwork is Kennel Club signed over to you and given to you on the day, I dont think it is unreasonable to expect him to be upto date with his innoculations and wormer and for you to have the card, also find out who their vet is and ask the vet about the dog to make sure he is in good health and not under going any treatment the owners havent told you about. It will take time for him to settle it may not affect him until months down the line but if you need any help we are here.

Sue welfare secretary

[michael mcnally]

sounds Sibe, If you take him on ensure all his paperwork is Kennel Club signed over to you and given to you on the day, I dont think it is unreasonable to expect him to be upto date with his innoculations and wormer and for you to have the card, also find out who their vet is and ask the vet about the dog to make sure he is in good health and not under going any treatment the owners havent told you about. It will take time for him to settle it may not affect him until months down the line but if you need any help we are here.

Sue welfare secretary

thanks sue I had not thought of calling the vet I am calling around tomorrow to try and get him registered at a good local vet. as far as I am aware he has been hip scored and eyes tested. just waitinf to see the papers of get vetnanery comfermation but I am excited. has was good yesterday and he wated an evey curb on command. my only downfall is he likes to put your hand in his mouth and he can sometimes be a little hard as his teeth are really sharp like puppies. thanks for the support mike. ps tryinf to find fresh roses in liverpool is harder than you think.

[Louise Cooke]

70 pounds is huge for a Sibe, are you sure he is purebred? Have you seen his KC registration and are you sure it belongs to that dog? Do you know the KC names of his parents? If you can post them here someone may know if there is any genetic reason for him being so big.

Why are the owners getting rid of him? 14 month old Sibes can be hell on legs, and if you are planning on keeping him in that tiny little run all day on his own you are asking for trouble. As well as it being cruel IMO.

If he's 70 pounds then he is either obese or very, very over height, so no, he isn't suitable as a stud, but there is much, much more to being suitable as a stud than just having a pair of balls 

I know you are very, very keen to get your Siberian, but I think you should wait a couple of years until you have the space for one. What area do you live in? I'm sure there will be someone local to you with Sibes who wouldn't mind you going round to visit them and to help out so you can learn, and see what you are getting yourself into 

[Sue Jones]

Had a 18 month old male sibe through welfare recently tipped the vet scales at 43kg! he is a svelt 27kg now

[michael mcnally]

Had a 18 month old male sibe through welfare recently tipped the vet scales at 43kg! he is a svelt 27kg now

OMG Sue bet that was fun. i just think miki is big boned as he is quite lean. but those coats can be hiding some body fat. got him registered today with the vet should have him by next weekend i am going to take a couple of days off to help him settle and let him explore some new areas. so any tips would be helpfull.
thanks mike 

[kelly donaldson]

hi tracey
i have taken him out today i went to his current home and he was verry more relaxed. he was on a leader and tried to pull. but not that much. i seen his papers today its a pedigree certificate and dose say he is a sibe. and has some history. it looks ligit. he is big and may be to big to be a good stud, but failing that i can get him newtered.  .

have i read this right?  you have yet to even adopt this dog and are already thinking of using him as s stud??
 
as louise says there is may to a stud dog than having the right bits, just because a dog is capable of breeding does not mean that is should be allowed to do so! 
there are a whole host of things to consider before allowing a dog to be used at stud and i really think you should be doing some serious research.

[michael mcnally]

hi tracey
i have taken him out today i went to his current home and he was verry more relaxed. he was on a leader and tried to pull. but not that much. i seen his papers today its a pedigree certificate and dose say he is a sibe. and has some history. it looks ligit. he is big and may be to big to be a good stud, but failing that i can get him newtered.  .

have i read this right?  you have yet to even adopt this dog and are already thinking of using him as s stud??
 
as louise says there is may to a stud dog than having the right bits, just because a dog is capable of breeding does not mean that is should be allowed to do so! 
there are a whole host of things to consider before allowing a dog to be used at stud and i really think you should be doing some serious research.

hi kelly i would not stud him till he was about two it was just a thought. but if is not up to standard i may consider newtering him. he is a lovley dog and has a lovly temperment and some lovly markings, and blue eyes.

[Gina-LuisaHilborne]

Hi Michael,

It's one of those "just because you can doesn't always mean you should" things. There's so very much involved with breeding that it's advisable to wait until you have a good deal of breed experience and understanding of all the very many issues. I've had Sibes for 10 years and the main thing I've learnt about breeding is that I would never ever do it! I don't believe I'll ever know enough and the sheer joy of turning around a troubled welfare has taught me that there's other things meant for me in this breed.

For your first dog it's probably best just to enjoy him and his good looks. 

I have a welfare boy who is far too tall and consequently he doesn't run right and his temprament, whilst now under control, wasn't anything to be desired. However, he's a stunner, but that's just an accident. 

All of my dogs are neutered/spayed - 3 are welfares. Worry-free zone! Well done for rehoming but I'd personally advise the snip as soon as he's matured.

All the best,
Gina